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Any advice for deloping Melodic skillset of improv

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:12 pm
by nickjacquet (deleted)
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Ok....so I have spent a shit load of time on Musictheory.nets interval ear trainer to the point where i can go for like a 100+ interval recognitions w/o making a mistake..I know all my scales backways frontways sideways and slantways...(Memorized the Segovia Maj/melodic minor scale book from doing it cover to cover every day) have nailed down the single string open-string pedal scale picking excercises for the entire odrer of #'s & b's from doing it every day (subject to the scales where each open strings have membership....Beat the hell out of the order of #s/b's using the seven different 3 N.P.S scale forms....Furthermore I have the 5 Caged shapes down well but not to the level that I have the other scale forms (I mostly just focussed on the Caged Shapes built on the I & V barre w/ root on base E) And fwiw, I also blasted my way through the 14 POS system to learn all my 12 Maj (7th)....12 min (7th)....12 V7th's...3 dim7th...& 4 Aug arpeggios across the four octaves on my six string...All that shit is great but I still am not at the point where I can effortlessly hear melodies in my head (that are built on the harmonic underpinning's of what I am trying to improv over) and then instantly and w/o considerable thought execute said melodies w/o lagging behind...falling mentally "out of Pocket" of where I am as the Changes are Changing///what the hell can I do about this....I have been throwing every fabric of my being @ guitar for the past 2 years...(practicing my ass off...talking 4 semesters of theory classes to get from cover to cover in the Green Tonal Harmony book by Koska and Payne) Anyway I dont think I am capable of doing anything more in these areas than I already am doing and wonder why I still suck so much...tho to be honest two years ago I didnt even know what a power chord was/how to play one...so I remind myself to be greatful for the strides I have made...nevertheless this is one area that i am desperate to gain much greater proficiency @...Any Advice anyone?

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RE: Any advice for deloping Melodic skillset of improv

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:11 pm
by deltadiscos • 310 Posts

I may be wrong but you may have crammed too much into just two years. I'm sure some other have good advice for you..

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RE: Any advice for deloping Melodic skillset of improv

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:39 pm
by uderoche (deleted)
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Probably the best advice is stop doing all that stuff and start playing music. Play over backing tracks. Create. Join a band. Start a band. Get on stage and play in front of people. You can always come back to all this stuff. I would dedicate most of my guitar time to learning to improv over backing tracks. It's trial and error. But I understand. It is very difficult to "create" which is what you are doing when you improv. But, just like the other things, give it time and practice it and it will develop.


-Ursin

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RE: Any advice for deloping Melodic skillset of improv

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:46 pm
by pebberbrown • 876 Posts

Ursin knows whats up. My advice is about the same but even more primitive. Now that you have all this knowledge, go find a drummer, find a room to jam in where you wont get the cops called on you, and then just start banging out some riffs and jam on it. STOP OVER ANALYZING shit dude - you have to sit there in the fucking room with a drummer and just bang it out. "What do I play???" FUCK YOU!
DONT ASK THAT QUESTION. JUST FUCKING DO IT.

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RE: Any advice for deloping Melodic skillset of improv

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:21 am
by nickjacquet (deleted)
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I dont have access to a drummer A.T.M....So I found a customizable drum machine online and starting today I am going to try using it instead of a metronome...but I do have a good friend back home who is a bitchin drummer (he went to Berklee)...Incidently he was the person who helped me first get into guitar...which he is WAAAY better than me @ b/c i still suck

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