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RE: Posting Videos
in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Wed May 29, 2013 7:27 amby NicholasJacquet (deleted)
RE: Posting Videos
in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Wed May 29, 2013 8:52 amby pebberbrown • 926 Posts
RE: Posting Videos
in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Wed May 29, 2013 12:19 pmby deltadiscos • 321 Posts
RE: Posting Videos
in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Wed May 29, 2013 12:40 pmby NicholasJacquet (deleted)
I will be sad if it turns out my picking is not true Sarod...I was Floating wrist in original video...this clip was cut from a larger video I had recorded that went up to 270 B.P.M. w/ the neocalsical pedal 6/4 deal before things got a little sloppy so I cut it from the video...though even if is n't Sarod I am still proud of it because picking 16ths @ 270 ammounts to a controlled 18 N.P.S. (270x4/60=18) when didnt really feel the need to exhert myself...I think thats probably in the top 1% eschelon & that makes me happy because before I starting thinking about sarod I could not pick for crap. Its faster than I have seen Petrucci, Vai, or gilbert, or cooley pick...So it cannot be that bad of pick technique. Anyway I gota start practicing and get warmed up for a close up shot.
Now if you are one of those few people, KUDOS! But before you convince yourself that you are one of those people, you might want to prove it with a little work. Someone on this forum showed how you can use the html5 version of youtube to play back your video at 25% speed to more easily hear if you're really playing what you think you're playing. Even more accurate would be to import your audio into a DAW that you can really slow down and compare to a click track / metronome. With this method you can hear AND see if you're really that fast. Seriously, try one of these options out. No, really.
Track down a longer post I made about published bpm values and someone else's claims on this board if you're interested. I believe that person was playing 3 or even 2 notes at X bpm when they thought they were playing 4.
RE: Posting Videos
in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Wed May 29, 2013 1:03 pmby NicholasJacquet (deleted)
RE: Posting Videos
in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Wed May 29, 2013 4:15 pmby NicholasJacquet (deleted)
You are not playing 16th notes at 270bpm.
I think we need to have a discussion on the metronome.
Play slow...then speed it up gradually. Make a video of that.
Regardless, love your attitude. Keep going forward
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RE: Posting Videos
in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Wed May 29, 2013 5:39 pmby NicholasJacquet (deleted)
RE: Posting Videos
in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Wed May 29, 2013 5:56 pmby deltadiscos • 321 Posts
link to what drlben was on about
i thought i was playing a lot faster
great way is record with audacity or reaper with a click track
then slow it down i get to 220bpm 16ths 14nps happy with that
You think you practice enough.......YOU DON'T!............PRACTICE MORE! Darryn U.K
RE: Posting Videos
in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Wed May 29, 2013 6:25 pmby NicholasJacquet (deleted)
the last video is the shortest of them...and yeah I couldn't get all the way up to 270....But its good enoug to conclude this silly little venture and celebrate the wonderful excesses made possible by Sarod.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzwnCy0IV5I
RE: Posting Videos
in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Wed May 29, 2013 8:37 pmby NicholasJacquet (deleted)
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in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Wed May 29, 2013 8:50 pmby pebberbrown • 926 Posts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIOak3-Ss1k
16th notes would be 4 notes EVERY CLICK.
not 2 notes, or every other click for that matter.
16th notes at 270 bpm?
RE: Posting Videos
in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Thu May 30, 2013 1:33 amby NicholasJacquet (deleted)
I dont see why its so hard for anyone to beleive...I figure there must be Sarod players out there capable of sextuplets at that tempo....and if noone else, I'd bet that between yourself, Buckethead, and Frak that things of considerably less "feasibility" have been achieved.
RE: Posting Videos
in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Thu May 30, 2013 2:49 amby NicholasJacquet (deleted)
Attached is 1.) video file @ 260 B.P.M. & 2.) a corresponding audio that has been slowed down enough to tell what was happening...There was some hit and some miss (really good accuracy is hard to get @ this tempo; but yes it does clearly show a few seconds of picking @ 4/beat 260. Ugh...Its not going to let me attach an aup file from audacity to the forum; just sent both files to Ursin in pm on his official facebook page/ couldnt think of any more efficient way to get it out..Its not any really fancy or difficult pattern just part of a dumb pedal sequence. Its not hard to hear at all, its sitting there clear as day in the .AUP
RE: Posting Videos
in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Thu May 30, 2013 3:45 amby NicholasJacquet (deleted)
I wish that people would be more inclined to take me more seriously and at my word... No matter...When he hears it in the Audacity file and sees it in the mini clip, I know Ursin will confirm the 30 sec audio file for what I was talking about, they are right there @ the end tucked within their respective beats and anyone who can recognize 16ths to a 40 B.P.M. clicktrack will recognize them. That settles it/
Also, consider why you only find drummers and video game heroes in youTube when you search for 270 bpm. It's because 16ths at 270bpm is TOO F*&KING FAST; both to play and to even want to play to sound musical.
If you're still not convinced by 4+ people including 2 excellent teachers, I for one would like you to post this, today, without warming up. For someone that can play 16ths at 270 bpm, these speeds should be totally doable with no warming up at all. Heck, these speeds are totally doable by lowly old me, with no warming up at all. Note that I freely admit that I top out with 16ths at about 192-208 bpm (see my last Sarod posting). Also, to even play that fast, I have to warm up for at least an hour AND play super boring single notes or really easy double/quadruple picked runs. NO ONE is going to want to listen to that!
Anyway, use whatever picking method you want and record this:
1. Put your metronome at 1/2 volume.
2. Take off distortion and put your amp at a bit higher, but non-clipping volume.
3. Record 16th notes at 60 bpm for 1 minute.
4. Record 16th notes at 80 bpm for 1 minute.
5. Record 16th notes at 100 bpm for 1 minute.
6. Record 16th notes at 120 bpm for 1 minute.
7. Record 16th notes at 140 bpm for 1 minute.
Start to finish that should be doable in under 10 minutes, so I shouldn't be ruining your practice session. Then stop, share, and go on your marathon picking/trill practice session.
RE: Posting Videos
in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Thu May 30, 2013 6:08 amby NicholasJacquet (deleted)
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