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SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:08 pm
by FRaKh • 320 Posts

Soooo...
Has Sarod changed your playing yet?
Do you practice Sarod(pure), Scalpel(pure), and then the Hybrid(Sarod/Scalpel) by themselves???
How about warm ups and drills?
Any problems?
Any discoveries???????????????????????
Well...its been about a year but I have picked up where I left off and asked Pebber If I could address this topic...soo...Ill be trying to show what has worked for me as well as some ideas to explore.
If you are already good at the technique, and even if your not, throw a video up. It would be interesting to compare hand angles...pick angles..ect.
Videos to come....getting back into synch.....:)


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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:08 pm
by FRaKh • 320 Posts

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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:12 am
by Slashiepie • 118 Posts

Amazing :P
Do i have your permission to use this video as a reference for explaining sarod and to post this video on the UG Forums ?

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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:14 am
by uderoche (deleted)
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Great video from Frakh! Wonderful sarod examples with explanations of how to get started. Thanks Frakh!


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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:56 am
by FRaKh • 320 Posts

Thanx a lot man....
Your opinion means the a lot to me!

:)


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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:58 am
by FRaKh • 320 Posts

THanx!

I dont mind....what is UG?

Im a bit out of touch with these things since my trip to Gulag....


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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:59 pm
by jimiclaptoncarl • 117 Posts

I'm assuming UG=Ultimate Guitar... but I could be wrong. :x


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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:17 pm
by FRaKh • 320 Posts

More thoughts plus an exercise...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wDcQSFSqfc


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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:18 pm
by FRaKh • 320 Posts

More thoughts plus an exercise...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wDcQSFSqfc


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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:18 pm
by FRaKh • 320 Posts

More thoughts plus an exercise...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wDcQSFSqfc


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Randolf Smuntz

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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:36 am
by ferretwraith • 14 Posts

Thank you for the videos sir.

I have a sarod picking concern. I understand the concept. I'm pretty sure I understand the motion. What leaves me confused is the speed. In the videos I've seen of both Pebber and yourself, it seems like sarod is a code word for "ABOUT TO PLAY REALLY FREAKING FAST."

Is doing it quickly a fundamental part of the technique? I'm assuming it's a matter of long-term practice, but sarod picking at 1/4th the pace of my regular picking, which isn't breaking any speed records in the first place feels... wrong enough that I should ask a question about it.

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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:49 am
by FRaKh • 320 Posts

HHmmmm.....

Think of the speed part as an attribute of the technique....its like taking out your old pinto transmition from your car and putting a 6 speed ultra quick shift racing transmission in its place. The speed is one of those unfortunate qualities of Sarod. Whats also an unfortunate characteristic is its endurance...hours...and hours can be consumed by this technique with little or no fatigue. :)
THATS an amazing quality for any technique!

I have noticed a threshold....
You are right to a certain point that Sarod is a leap into warp drive...and to play slow is actually a chore. Thats where practicing slowly comes into play...BUT...more importantly...other techniques! Scalpel picking. Thats where scalpel picking takes over for me....
The goal.....
To mesh them together into an effortless....seamless transition...
Scalpel(pure), Sarod(pure), and then the hybrid.
Im not even mentioning other techniques to try...like chicken pickin...a possible answer for high speed sequences??????

It probably feels wrong at slower speeds because...hhmmm....maybe the forearm isnt strengthened yet...try to practice picking harder at slower speeds...just for the practice of it. The technique is all balance...so maybe when played slower....that balance feels awkward. I had felt that as well but still practice at slower speeds just so I can get that down.

Hope that helps....


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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:45 pm
by FRaKh • 320 Posts

Sarod with Coils...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjdVeYpO40k

A very good exercise to practice moving through the 6 strings.

Alternate picking ONLY!!!


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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:59 pm
by FRaKh • 320 Posts

Another exercise...
For this on I blended Coils with the first exercise I showed on here.....something different.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZE94z4Ve...aHkXiZ5u2sAHTBo=


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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:56 am
by dave86uk • 34 Posts

Thanks for these videos FRaKh Ive only just been checking them out the past few days Im always busy with pebbers daily practice routine trills, spider ex, ladders, x pattern, timing exercises & scalpel picking etc.

One thing I wanted to ask from your last video is what are coils ? they seem similar to some paul gilbert exercises Ive recently started.

Im hoping Ive not missed something on pebbers videos I dont remember them being mentioned.

Is there a PDF for coils I cant find find one.

Im sure I will pick up what you mean the more I watch the videos just thought Id ask Im gona start putting your ideas into my daily practice.

Thanks

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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:01 am
by pebberbrown • 901 Posts

No PDF's on coils. My friend Ralph Mutter already did a whole gigantic book of them - go buy it - Adam Kadmon Guitar Grimoire exercises

Guitar Grimoire Exercise Book


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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:13 am
by dave86uk • 34 Posts

Cool thanks pebber Im just checking some books now for him on amazon

I cant get that particular book in the uk was thinking of this one http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Guitar-Grimo...92&sr=8-3-fkmr0 or Ill see about getting the book you recommend shipped to the uk when I get paid next.

Thanks again


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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:02 am
by FRaKh • 320 Posts

There is a video I did in this thread discussing coils as well...


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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Fri May 25, 2012 2:21 pm
by Slashiepie • 118 Posts

You guys remember Module 1 ?The most important exercise ?

Watch this by Paul Gilbert (click on Paul´s Response and skip to 4:30)
http://hub.artistworks.com/masterclass/7375

I was so amazed that as i watched i tought to myself.. WTH ? Pebber already made me go through that!!
that is all pretty much covered by Pebber for free , and what BEGINNERS start with!! i felt the need to post it so badly:)

Sarod stuff like that such a breeze..
Of course Paul has his own unique approach to it, he is an awesome guy and guitarist and one can learn from everyone, but what i want to say is Pebber you're a hell of a teacher.

FFS im lucky i found these forums and your videos!!!


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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Fri May 25, 2012 4:39 pm
by John567 • 156 Posts

Hi FRakh,

Love your vids. My favorites are "Something Fun" and "Fuck it". Great stuff.

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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Fri May 25, 2012 6:06 pm
by joematakon54 (deleted)
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WOW that guy has some of the longest, skinniest fingers I've ever seen ! I'm stuck with these fat little fingers HALF that length...lolol.

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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Fri May 25, 2012 10:19 pm
by FRaKh • 320 Posts

Aaahh goodt!

Sometimes you just have to say Fuck It!
:)


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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Fri May 25, 2012 10:29 pm
by FRaKh • 320 Posts

I used to follow Paul around at clinics when I was a pup.
A great guy!
He always had time to show "how to" or bs.....very nice!

I wished he went back to being hungry like when he was in Racer X........

He has some great exercises as well!

I couldnt find Pauls response??
I might be tired....

Sarod is absolutely fantastic....I cant say enough about it.....and PB...geeezzzzzz.....

I hope for a goodt practice week to share some ideas on vid....lots of hours at work this past weeks...eeeeee.


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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Fri May 25, 2012 10:35 pm
by FRaKh • 320 Posts

yes just tired...found the response!

Man he never changes or gets older!
He is like a younger Dick Clark!

He is way cool...


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RE: SAROD

in PB Guitarstudio FORUMS Sat May 26, 2012 12:42 pm
by FRaKh • 320 Posts

Here is an old vid with my son showing some Gilbert mods.....
Its always fun trying to record with my son!!!
Always helping me!
:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRz9YVHa8M4&feature=youtu.be

Hope you guys like it!

ohhhh...no Sarod on this one.....!
all wrist!
What was I thinkingk!!


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